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Well, now that Alpha is underway and all sorts of goodies are being datamined I figure it's about time to make a thread like this. Remember to make every post subject "Legion Spoilers" so people that don't want to see don't have something ruined for them in the Recent Comments box!

So I know this is a little early but MMO-champion posted some pretty serious spoilers already. Varian is dead, Anduin is king, Vol'jin is missing so Sylvanas is acting Warchief, and OHMYGOD THEY REMEMBERED CALIA MENETHIL EXISTED.

Fingers crossed Calia is alive and teams up with Genn to wreck Sylvanas' face.

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Also do remember that this is super early, datamined stuff is subject to change if it make it in at all (Yrel's original story intro, the Black Bishop stuff, etc), so take things with a grain of salt, remember we're seeing a LOT without context, and DO give the devs feedback, esepcially if/when we get folks into the beta itself.

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I doubt they'll kill Varian offscreen; after that cinematic intro, he may be believed dead. Vol'jin missing and the other leaders gone means Sylvanas can swoop in, but man; Calia...Here's hoping!

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Yeah, I'm absolutely convinced that the Varian thing is "oh, we saw the ship crash and go boom, sorry Anduin, your dad is probably rip" and we find him by the end of the expansion. Having him headline the cinematic in the way he does and then just flop over in the game itself would be weird (though they've certainly done weirder before).

Anyway, this is almost enough to get me to resub for a little while and at least get Jules to 100.

Almost.

I'll definitely be keeping an eye on how the alpha/beta shapes up.

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*Grabs Julica*

*Hugs Julica*

*Puts Julica down*

Darlain
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I actually do think Varian bites it for real, I recall at blizzcon they said the 40 man scenario at the broken shore, which takes place after the cinematic, began with you reporting to Varian and Sylvie.

Thematically, all these quest lines appear to be kinda picking up the pieces after a major defeat at the end of the broken shore scenario. If it turns out that he is really MIA it'd likely be something that happens during the scenario.

Sadly for Calia, since there is also Lothar, and Arthas, and llane she might be part of some flashback series, perhaps involved with frostmourne.

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I kinda think Varian actually dies too. The only thing that really makes me doubt it is his swords didn't become one of the artifacts and it seems like such an obvious choice for fury warriors if they were going to kill him off. And yeah, when I looked at some other people popping up, I kinda got the feeling Calia might be a part of some flashback, but I hope she isn't.

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There's a thread on MMO-champ with a lot of the quest text about what's going on with Greymane and Sylvanas. The part about Sylvanas delivering the killing blow to Varian is uncomfirmed, but the rest seems to come straight from quest text and it seems like Varian is definitely dead and Genn seems to at least think, if not know, Sylvanas is the one that killed him.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1917090-Varian-amp-Sylvanas-Massive-...

 

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Hrm; no body, no crime.

This is still offscreen, it seems; unless we actually see Varian fall, even this text is speculative, and could still be playing off the opening cinematic, with the Alliance making assumptions based on seeing Sylvanas flipping around the skyship before it went down.

I think the Horde quests would really mention something if they committed such a major event; they wouldn't ignore it in favor of the Queen's mission--it's the King of Stormwind. They'd see it as a victory keeping the Alliance occupied (or the reason we're being such a hassle!).

Just from the writing so far, it feels like they're either leaving the door open to alter the plot still, or trying to pull a fake-out for us to find Varian later, fury-wielding his way across the Isles versus demons and not willing to destabilize Anduin's new rule.

Also: COMMANDER LORNA CROWLEY ON DECK HECK YEAH! *swoons for shotgun-wielding Gilnean ladies*

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And while we're at it, let's put a bell on Vol'jin already. He went missing in Mists after getting stabbed in the throat, and now he's off again? Darnit, stay PUT, Warchief!

(although I'd be good with Baine and/or Lor'themar pulling a coup on Sylvanas and telling her no she can't be queen they're running things while she tries to become some val'kyr thing).