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Nicholai
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Need clarification: Was the

Need clarification: Was the diplomacy check for Councilman Grumpypants or to soothe Kendra?

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Mine as aimed at Kendra. The

Mine as aimed at Kendra. The Councilmen can go soak his head.

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Drogar
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Orin has a +6 CMB. That can

Orin has a +6 CMB. That can be arranged.

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My aid was for Ariam on

My aid was for Ariam on Kendra.

Nicholai
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Are you guys alright?  You're

Are you guys alright?  You're awfully quiet.

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Hoping that the people with

Hoping that the people with the note are going to share the information.  CeeRee's not so skilled with the comforting, so quiet is a deliberate choice.

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Sorry Nich, I was waiting for

Sorry Nich, I was waiting for your post to continue and I guess it was swallowed up by other posts in the sidebar.

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Posting anyway

If it gets others to post, I'd maybe have one there about maybe listening to Ariam talk to Kendra, and her own words (I really liked that cut back and forth by the way, Nich, as that was a great way to get the info out and keeping both parts of the party informed in their own ways).

I mean, it's at least something to react to and maybe interact with. Who knows how long it's going to take the upstairs journal group to discuss and get back down to share? And would they in front of Kendra?

Strikes me as one of those times where one has to keep themselves involved. Creative interaction is part of the point of RP, and in a forum game, just "staying quiet" by not posting can seem like you've dropped interest.

The post seemed pretty complete to me when I first saw it from the sidebar. But I also tend to check stuff often.

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Can't post till tonight I'm

Can't post till tonight I'm afraid, Nich's post is not phone friendly, the writing goes off the page.

Drogar
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The scans, or his actual own

The scans, or his actual own text? Because he linked the journal page scan at the end of it.

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Thanks for bring that to my

Thanks for bring that to my attention, Drogar

Oh, and lute's dance, for the record: http://tinyurl.com/l2zna8u

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(I really liked that cut back

(I really liked that cut back and forth by the way, Nich, as that was a great way to get the info out and keeping both parts of the party informed in their own ways).

 

Thanks Lirriel!  I spent a good chunk of time on that one.  :D

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Sorry guys.  Terrible time

Sorry guys.  Terrible time with work.  I'll post as soon as I can.

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Kinda worried about the

Kinda worried about the player base for this game.  Haven't heard from half the group in two weeks.

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I'm having a bit of trouble

I'm having a bit of trouble with this stuff. Like.. I can handle battle thngs, but i'm not familiar with skill checks and who should be doing what.

Also what my character would know and not know.

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I do apologize, I recently

I do apologize, I recently started Warhammer 40K and forget to check this. I shall make a post when I'm actually at my computer, not my phone.

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If you don't know what to do,

If you don't know what to do, guys, feel free to post anyway - either here, or in the IC.  You can see Drogar's character is present without being the kind of person that really contributes to an investigation.  It's important to know that you're there and what troubles you're having rather than leaving things in a lurch when you don't know what's going on.

 

Let's talk about skills and the ways you might want to use skills in the future of a gothic horror setting.  Skill challenges are a big part of many Pathfinder campaigns, and you'll find a lot of challenges in this campaign aren't meant to be solved with fists.  If you're particularly creative with your fists, you can find a solution, but that's neither here nor there.

 

In this case, you're doing an investigation.  And if you wanna be a gumshoe, you're gonna have to know your skills.

 

Your investigation breaks down into multiple aspects, which you may or may not specialize in as a character.

 

Perception:  An eye for trouble and a nose for running

 

When you're faced with a mystery of any kind, finding clues can really help out.  You can do this in a lot of ways.

The Perception Skill - I've given you a very general idea of what you're looking at, but a perception skill might be able to determine if there are any hidden clues in the area.  I'll give you as much information as I am able without a roll, but finding those really tricky clues will require a perception check on your part to dig them up.  It was a dark and stormy night, so only a sharp eye can tell you what really happened in the darkness.

The Survival Skill - Survival covers a lot of tracking and can determine a lot of information as to what happened.  Remember when Legolas figured how a whole battle went down by doing a little dance around some tracks?  He used perception to find those tracks and then survival to figure out what the tracks meant and where they were going.

Tracks don't have to be footprints either (Althought footprints can sure be a big help!).  You've got a bunch of blood on that memorial.  Where did it come from?  Whose blood is it?  Is it fake?  Is it real?  People who start bleeding don't tend to stop either.  Are you looking for a corpse?  A psycopath that cut his own hand open?  Or a powerful wizard that can summon blood out of thin air?  Only one way to find out.

 

Intelligence and Wisdom Checks - Sometimes, you just can't see the forest for the trees.  In these cases, saying something is fairly helpful.  If the situation warrants, I might call for an Intelligence or a Wisdom check, if you happen to have gathered enough information for your character to draw a conclusion based on what they know.

These checks are only done if I call for them, so it's in your best interest to keep posting and indicate, even OOCly, if you're getting stuck.  Similarly, there are abilities that will let you get these checks without my intervention too.

Sadly, ability checks like these tend to fail more often than general skill checks, so this is really saved for a last-ditch effort.

 

Hittin' the books - the ones that don't hit back:

You have a lot of information already, actually.  You know there's blood that's radiating magical necromancy energy all over the place.  What does that mean?  Is it going to blow up in your face?  These are important questions, and you've got the tools to get the answers.

Now that you know that the letter has some magic, you can further get a picture of what's happening with your knowledge skills or your spellcraft.

Your Spellcraft will tell you the technical details of the spell - what the letter is doing exactly now.

Knowledge Arcana might tell you the significance of the spell, its placement, the significance of the letter from a magical perspective, etc.

Not everything's about magic, though.  CeeRee had a good idea - what if the memorial itself is important?  Who are those people on the name plates?  Knowledge: History might be what's called for to glean valuable information here.

If you don't have the knowledge skill to figure out the information you need, your access to information is very limited to very basic ideas.  However, this limitation is removed if you happen to do so some research, and you might also unlock hefty bonuses on your knowledge checks with a particularly good set of research resources.

 

Of course, getting access to books might be tricky.  But you do know someone who does a lot of research...

 

Hittin' the pavement: Social skills and you.

Clues aren't only physical pieces to be identified with knowledge.  Something spooky happened out here, and there's a lot of people who might know something is going on around town.  Here's a few things you can do with some social skills.

Sense Motive - Most of your interaction has been with Kendra, who's comfortable around you and thus wears her emotions on her sleeve around you.  She's a pretty easy read, and doesn't require a roll to get an idea of how she's feeling and what she's thinking.  You can't do that with most other people, though, and sense motive is going to be useful to you in a lot of ways.

Even without talking to someone, you can always roll sense motive to get a gut reaction a person or a situation.  It might not get you the exact info to act, but getting a general read might tip you off on where to start.

Similarly, if you think someone is lying to you, you might want to try sensing motive against their lie.  If you can beat their bluff check, you might be able to uncover the truth...

Gathering Information - There's a whole town of people out there.  Sure, the storm was bad, but the memorial is on the south side of town.  If someone came from town, surely someone saw something.

Or maybe they didn't?  Maybe the guy came from the south where no one could see?  The only way to find out is to ask.

To gather information, you need to make a diplomacy check.  Gathering information can also get you rumours around town.  However, it does take 1d4 hours to gather info, so make sure you have plenty of spare time before giving this a roll.

 

On top of skills, you've also got magic to help you on your investigation.  Keep your cool, and you'll get to the bottom of any mystery, one way or another.

 

Get to it, gumshoes!

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A lot of great points

A lot of great points here!

You can also just..chat. Socialize. Say something wacky or inappropriate, if that fits. Try to be helpful, and then just ask the GM what you need to do if you want to look around.

it's like in social RP events on WoW. If someone shows up to inkwell, sits at the table, and doesn't say anything....are they there IC? Are they AFK? Are they just watching? If they don't say anything IC, don't contribute to the RP, you never really know. And chat just kinda scrolls on by them.

Or if you go AFK in a RP, or fall offline, people keep RPing a lot of times. But you get left behind and left out in most cases because you aren't contributing and no one else is really sure why you stopped talking.

On the forum, there's no handy avatar to tell people you're still "present" but not saying anything. You just stopped caring about checking the threads and posting at all, so far as anyone else is concerned. Or, your lack of posting is holding things up.

Use the OOC thread, or PM, or in game chat to ask Nich stuff! Run ideas by Drogar. Or just make something up, cuz that's all RP is, right? ;)

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I can't remember if Survival

I can't remember if Survival is applicable here without the Track feature but there it is.

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Without ranks, you can only

Without ranks, you can only find/follow trails with a DC of 10 or lower. If the DC is higher, I can take a shot once the Sheriff responds to me.

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I hate to admit, but it's

I hate to admit, but it's been so long, I forget what modifiers I use for this. I'ma roll, if I need to fix it, someone let me know?

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Sorry, Rast.  No hunch for

Sorry, Rast.  No hunch for you.  It's a base DC of 20 without modifiers.

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I labelled a map for you

I labelled a map for you all.  It'll get new stars when you discover something neat.

 

Like a body.

 

Or a shallow grave.

 

NOT THAT ANYTHING'S HAPPENING IN THIS TOWN OR ANYTHING.

 

You can click here for the big version.

 

Map (For you!)

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Clearly this means there is

Clearly this means there is no trail to find. At all.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFphk91e65g

 

Kendra rolled well on Knowledge History - the only one Fink didn't state.  :P

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I cant seem to find a way to

I cant seem to find a way to edit my post. But when Ariam means book smart she means the gnomes. Silly writing during raid break and being in a hurry.

How would it end
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Break with past
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I've seen what the future has in mind for me

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Nich, remember when you

Nich, remember when you stickie something for this to uncheck the publish to front page box, or it'll sit up there forever.

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Maybe I want them stuck up

Maybe I want them stuck up there.

 

Forever.

 

I'll keep it in mind for next time.  Sorry 'bout that.

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Firie - you can make a

Firie - you can make a perception check too if you want.   I always have your limited vision in mind.

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I've always subscribed to the

I've always subscribed to the school that the GMs are in charge of when perception checks happen.  That said, I'll certainly take that opportunity!

 

Though it doesn't seem to let me in the game thread itself so